This post was merged from a seperate topic in the SAM Broadcaster Forum --Mastacheata
I know this topic could bring about a good deal of conversation, depending on where a DJ stands on listener duration and trying to thwart stream rippers.
I routinely have listeners who log long (and by long, I mean 10 hours and up) hours of listening time. As much as I'd like to be flattered that my station is that good
that someone would like to listen that long, but I've also been doing this long enough to know that there's usually a pretty good chance that that listener is actually a stream ripper. Especially when I kick someone who's been on for 18 hours, only for them to join the stream immediately and repeatedly.
There's a part of me the wants to limit the amount of time a listener can stay on the line for a couple of reasons.
One would be: HEY, there are only so many ports. Let someone else have a chance
Another would be: "Dude, are you REALLY sitting there listening to my station for 10, 12, 20 hours at a time?
Another would be: There goes another stream ripper. I need to stop that bastage.
I know we're supposed to do what we can to thwart them, but it can sometimes be hard to discern who's a stream ripper and who's a regular listener.
I know I should be appreciative and flattered that someone would want to spend that much time tuned into my station. At the same time, it kinda grinds my gears that some kid is ripping off music that is I legitimately paid for.
I do use the random title changer PAL to change the update time of the ID3 tag, but that's only so effective. I used to use R.I.P. to limit listener duration, but R.I.P. has been kept up in years and will kick legitimate listeners because it deems them a ripper based on the listening agent.
I guess, to boil it down to its essence, what I'm asking is three-fold, and actually geared toward further discussion:
1) Is there a way, outside of the antiquated R.I.P., to limit listener duration?
2) What do other DJs due to deal with stream rippers?
3) Does anyone even really care about stream rippers anymore?
I long ago gave up having an active interest in putting up a shield against stream rippers, but in looking into setting up reasonable listener durations it kind of came back to mind.